Yeah, fair enough.View attachment 99064
7 seats. Similar space.
There could be an argument for the Dacia Jogger, too.
Yeah, fair enough.View attachment 99064
7 seats. Similar space.
Yeah, there's a few of them. Personally, they don't have the same character and driveability due to the strangled newer emissions. Most buyers are swayed with the in-car tech.Yeah, fair enough.
There could be an argument for the Dacia Jogger, too.
On the Dacia forum, the Jogger manual gearbox seems all over the place regarding reliability. Shed loads on it.Yeah, there's a few of them. Personally, they don't have the same character and driveability due to the strangled newer emissions. Most of them are swayed with in car tech
Well, it is a Renault. Great trucks....shit cars.On the Dacia forum, the Jogger manual gearbox seems all over the place regarding reliability. Shed loads on it.
Renault trucks owned by Volvo since 2001, might explain the differenceWell, it is a Renault. Great trucks....shit cars.
Apart from minibus versions of builders vans, there is no European equivalent to the Elgrand/Alphard. God awful lumps like the Espace (I owned two) and the Sharan/Galaxy are closest but still in a league below.I had never heard of the spacetourer. However, now I looked it up, how is it similar to an E52?
Auto Trader UK - New and Used Cars For Sale
Find your next car with Auto Trader UK, the official #1 site to buy and sell new and used cars. Over 400,000 cars online. Simple, easy, quick!www.autotrader.co.uk
Right on lolApart from minibus versions of builders vans, there is no European equivalent to the Elgrand/Alphard. God awful lumps like the Espace (I owned two) and the Sharan/Galaxy are closest but still in a league below.
And before anyone mentions overpriced VW T5/T6 or the luxurious Mercedes Vito as "competition", Think again. They are designed for plumbers and driven by bellends. Fact,
I still think those Sharan, Spacetourer, Galaxy cars are far more car-like, than the E52.Apart from minibus versions of builders vans, there is no European equivalent to the Elgrand/Alphard. God awful lumps like the Espace (I owned two) and the Sharan/Galaxy are closest but still in a league below.
And before anyone mentions overpriced VW T5/T6 or the luxurious Mercedes Vito as "competition", Think again. They are designed for plumbers and driven by bellends. Fact,
Exactly......I still think those Sharan, Spacetourer, Galaxy cars are far more car-like, than the E52.
Despite its different interpretation, I'd still put the E52 far into the classic JDM MVP (E50/51/Alphard/Serena/Voxy etc etc) category, than the car-like Sharan/Jogger types
The E52 is still a "proper" Elgrand, it belongs on here. I am an E51 (S2) fan, maybe I will stretch to an S3 for my next purchase. This is the Elgrand Owners Club. We embrace all Elgrands and their owners......I still think those Sharan, Spacetourer, Galaxy cars are far more car-like, than the E52.
Despite its different interpretation, I'd still put the E52 far into the classic JDM MVP (E50/51/Alphard/Serena/Voxy etc etc) category, than the car-like Sharan/Jogger types
LOL... I had to read that twiceEverything on EOC is about E50 and E51. Where are the E52s?
Not everything.......there is a Joke thread and a Show us your non Elle ride thread.
Yes... Gary's E52 Lowdown Blog has recently been very helpful. I actually stambled on it after searching the Internet for information about servicing the CVT Gearbox. Obviously I first started with searching on here.It is understandable there is less E52 talk here for the reasons given by @Highway Dave & @Holdfast4130
I think the amount of E52 activity will increase naturally over time as more and more of them get to be 10 year old in Japan and are then exported. The E52 technical section here is helpful as are other blogs such as this (written by a member of the OC):
I'm doing my bit to up the E52 participation and hopefully other E52 owners will too.
I agree the Elgrand Owners Club is here to embrace all Elgrands, and it's only members posting who add to the E52 coverage. As there are more E50 & E51 owners the content is going to be greater. This may change in time, but E50s & E51s have a head start of years.The E52 is still a "proper" Elgrand, it belongs on here. I am an E51 (S2) fan, maybe I will stretch to an S3 for my next purchase. This is the Elgrand Owners Club. We embrace all Elgrands and their owners......
You might have a point although I am a premium (paid) member.Not sure if you'll be able to see all the posts about E52's if you've only done 6 posts on the forum @CKapasa .
You need to get 10 posts done, then log out and log back in again to be able to see all the forum. Or pay for premium membership.
But you're right about there being far less about E52's than E51's. There's also less about E50's than E51's these days (but probably more about E50's than E52's).
Welcome aboard...
I was thinking the same as well... Surely you can't compare a Spacetourer to an E52. I guess that's how low the E52 reputation is on EOCI had never heard of the spacetourer. However, now I looked it up, how is it similar to an E52?
Auto Trader UK - New and Used Cars For Sale
Find your next car with Auto Trader UK, the official #1 site to buy and sell new and used cars. Over 400,000 cars online. Simple, easy, quick!www.autotrader.co.uk
We are starting to see clutch failures very early on the dacia manuals now... shit times aheadOn the Dacia forum, the Jogger manual gearbox seems all over the place regarding reliability. Shed loads on it.
E52 is still in a great league we can't compare any typical 7 seater to that 3.5 beautyI was thinking the same as well... Surely you can't compare a Spacetourer to an E52. I guess that's how low the E52 reputation is on EOC
This did say sick In my mouth but I had a few shandysSick in North m mouth