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- First Name
- Ian
- Elgrand
- E51
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- Devon/Conrwall
I use acf50 on my motorbike and looking online it’s fantastic on the underside of of car etc too have a look on u tube guys
I noticed a small leak around that area but the tubes look ok no corrosion. Maybe the o rings are weeping were they join the condenser.
Seconded for ACF 50, also have a look at Owatrol.I use acf50 on my motorbike and looking online it’s fantastic on the underside of of car etc too have a look on u tube guys
I own 2 Elgrands and both had bad AC pipes with AC not working when I bought them.
I bought a 3 part one (easier to fit without dropping the back axle) for my white one. No problem with that.
Would have bought a 3 part one for my black one but none were available. I visited an Elgrand dismantler who offered me the choice of 3 full length AC pipes and we both agreed on which one looked in best condition, so of course I bought the one that seemed in best condition. Dropped the back axle, fitted it, had it gassed up at Kwik Fit, it leaked in the usual position! So back axle off again, removed the recently fitted AC pipe, swapped it for one of the other 2 AC pipes the dismantler had, got it regassed again. The dismantler swapped the pipe free of charge but I had to pay for regassing twice and visit the dismantler twice but at least now it's OK lol...
The moral of the story is that even an AC pipe that looks in great condition can be corroded/thin in the usual position where they suffer this and it only takes the tiniest of pinprick holes for them to leak. If there seems to be a leak around this area I doubt it's from a joint/seal/O-ring, more likely it is the pipe
The air con still operates at the moment and I noticed using the NDS2 you can check the pressure of the system. Any idea how low the pressure can go before the pressure switch shuts down the system.I own 2 Elgrands and both had bad AC pipes with AC not working when I bought them.
I bought a 3 part one (easier to fit without dropping the back axle) for my white one. No problem with that.
Would have bought a 3 part one for my black one but none were available. I visited an Elgrand dismantler who offered me the choice of 3 full length AC pipes and we both agreed on which one looked in best condition, so of course I bought the one that seemed in best condition. Dropped the back axle, fitted it, had it gassed up at Kwik Fit, it leaked in the usual position! So back axle off again, removed the recently fitted AC pipe, swapped it for one of the other 2 AC pipes the dismantler had, got it regassed again. The dismantler swapped the pipe free of charge but I had to pay for regassing twice and visit the dismantler twice but at least now it's OK lol...
The moral of the story is that even an AC pipe that looks in great condition can be corroded/thin in the usual position where they suffer this and it only takes the tiniest of pinprick holes for them to leak. If there seems to be a leak around this area I doubt it's from a joint/seal/O-ring, more likely it is the pipe itself.
I don't know how low AC pressure can go on Elgrands before the AC system will refuse to engage the AC compressor clutch.The air con still operates at the moment and I noticed using the NDS2 you can check the pressure of the system. Any idea how low the pressure can go before the pressure switch shuts down the system.
I'll wait until mine drops out and take a reading. Changing the pipes sounds a right pain, could be the case of removing and doing without rear air con.I did once test the pressure the AC clutch would engage at, just using air pressure while checking for leaks (and decided to check the minimum pressure out of interest), but I forget what I found it to be.
I’ll have a lookSeconded for ACF 50, also have a look at Owatrol.
Just found bad rust starting between both rear wheel archers.Just wanting to know where 51s rust in general ? Thinking of wax oiling in the places before it starts ? Any advice ?
A good oil leak works wonders on a classic car but the leak needs to be sustantial enough to hoy oil far enough back
I'll keep this brief as we're on the rust thread rather than an AC thread, I only mentioned AC pipes because I think it's a good idea to prevent future rear AC pipe corrosion at the same time as undersealing.I'll wait until mine drops out and take a reading. Changing the pipes sounds a right pain, could be the case of removing and doing without rear air con.
For a min then I thought I commented on the wrong post.I'll keep this brief as we're on the rust thread rather than an AC thread, I only mentioned AC pipes because I think it's a good idea to prevent future rear AC pipe corrosion at the same time as undersealing.
It isn't as difficult as might be expected to drop the back axle, in practice you only have to drop the passenger side.
If you have a leaky rear AC pipe and don't want to change the pipe you can but a blanking plate to put in where the rear AC pipe connects at the front end of the car from Brian @BMR. Obviously rear AC won't work then but it will allow front AC to work without changing the long pipe. I've tried brazing and aluminium welding the rear pipe, the problem is when they leak it's because they've worn thin which makes brazing and welding very difficult.
Spot on mate cracking write up mate big help thanksHere is the link to my DIY underseal I did. Currently the body has no rust, the subframes and suspension parts have started to show signs of surface rust again so I will say it some attention after this salty seasons https://forum.elgrandoc.uk/threads/diy-underseal.3817/#post-32078
Hi there, I've just noticed my rear aircon inspection hatch has all but rusted away. Do you know where I can get a replacement , or what the part number is ?If you look under the car directly below where the rear cabin filter is You'll find it. Be careful as it's very easy to break the hinges if they've seized up.
You could look it up on the EPC but whether it's still available is another matter. Might be worth asking Steve at Tojo if he has a good used one.Hi there, I've just noticed my rear aircon inspection hatch has all but rusted away. Do you know where I can get a replacement , or what the part number is ?
Pay special attention around the rear aircon inspection hatch.
I was pleasantly surprised with the structural integrity of the thing, after 10 years on UK roads