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Elgrand E51 Top Speed

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Tarrman82 said:
Excellent work 😎😂
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I'm well past my boy racer days but very occasionally indulge myself lol.

Got to be honest though, no van is really going to be the best machine for going up against boy racers etc, for that it would be nice to have a decent car (drove my son's Bmer the other day and realise what I'm missing). But one thing the Elgrand does have is a bit of 'sleeper' type presence, other drivers don't generally expect them to be quite as quick as they are on the straights or to a lesser extent on the corners. The lads in the Golf could stay with me on the straights and should easily have been able to stay with me on the corners, wouldn't have made very good boy racers back in my day(!) but perhaps they've never piled it like most of their mates might have in which case they're not going far wrong. Sure I left an impression on them though!
 
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Nissan Elgrand 3.5 Rider high performance spec Specs

OVERVIEW​

With a curb weight of 5489 lbs (2490 kg), the Nissan Elgrand 3.5 Rider high performance spec has a V-type 6 cylinder DOHC engine, a High octane premium gasoline engine VQ35DE.
This engine VQ35DE produces a maximum power of 253.4 PS (250 bhp - 186.4 kW) at 6000 rpm and a maximum torque of 357.9 Nm (264 lb.ft - 36.5 kg.m) at 3200 rpm.
This propels the 2.5 tonne brick to a staggering 112MPH. For some reason Japanese designers tuned and de- restricted the white variants of the 3.5 E51s giving them a top speed of 155 MPH and a zero to 60 of under 5seconds.
The engine power is transmitted to the road by the rear wheel drive (FR) with a 5AT gearbox.
For stopping power, the Nissan Elgrand 3.5 Rider high performance spec braking system includes V disk at the rear and V disk at the front.
Stock tire sizes are 215/60 on 17 inch rims at the rear and 215/60 on 17 inch rims at the front.
Chassis details - Nissan Elgrand 3.5 Rider high performance spec has multi link rear suspension and strut front suspension for road holding and ride comfort.
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RE: The top speed video at the top of the thread (1st post) seems a bit sluggish on acceleration between 140 to 160 kph.

I have a feeling the RWD version is perhaps a little quicker, probably because it's down on weight 480kg at 2010kg instead of 2490 kg.

I've got my Series III RWD on video launching somewhat casually off the line from 0-86 kph in 6-seconds flat at about 3/4 throttle with Power Mode activated. At 86 kph, I had to get on the brakes for a powerful truck launching ahead of me.

I reckon a good, well-kept Elgrand (E51 RWD) with a tune, full throttle leaving it in auto with Power Mode enabled is good for 0-100 kph in just under 6-seconds.

NB. I am running on the factory Autech 17" Alloys with 225R17 rubber and a camber setup. Running too wide on the tires will also increase rolling resistance, so 225 to 215 or under will also help acceleration and fuel economy at the cost of grip.
 
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portdavenport said:
RE: The top speed video at the top of the thread (1st post) seems a bit sluggish on acceleration between 140 to 160 kph.

I have a feeling the RWD version is perhaps a little quicker, probably because it's down on weight 480kg at 2010kg instead of 2490 kg.

I've got my Series III RWD on video launching somewhat casually off the line from 0-86 kph in 6-seconds flat at about 3/4 throttle with Power Mode activated. At 86 kph, I had to get on the brakes for a powerful truck launching ahead of me.

I reckon a good, well-kept Elgrand (E51 RWD) with a tune, full throttle leaving it in auto with Power Mode enabled is good for 0-100 kph in just under 6-seconds.

NB. I am running on the factory Autech 17" Alloys with 225R17 rubber and a camber setup. Running too wide on the tires will also increase rolling resistance, so 225 to 215 or under will also help acceleration and fuel economy at the cost of grip.
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My series 3 rider 2wd 3.5 was identical in weight to my series 1 4x4 3.5, at 2225kg. Series 3 had a quarter of a tank and Series 1 had about half. I think the later models must of had more refinement built in hence the extra weight. Also on my series 1, give it full throttle and Power Mode flashed up on the dash anyway, all it does is sharpen up the throttle response. The only way you'll get 6 seconds to 60 in any Elgrand is with a tuned ecu and all the seats removed, then possibly maybe.
 
Lpgc said:
I'm well past my boy racer days but very occasionally indulge myself lol.

Got to be honest though, no van is really going to be the best machine for going up against boy racers etc, for that it would be nice to have a decent car (drove my son's Bmer the other day and realise what I'm missing). But one thing the Elgrand does have is a bit of 'sleeper' type presence, other drivers don't generally expect them to be quite as quick as they are on the straights or to a lesser extent on the corners. The lads in the Golf could stay with me on the straights and should easily have been able to stay with me on the corners, wouldn't have made very good boy racers back in my day(!) but perhaps they've never piled it like most of their mates might have in which case they're not going far wrong. Sure I left an impression on them though!
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Bit late to this thread, but I've really noticed this on roundabouts. Lots of drivers see a 'van' and think, "I can easily beat that onto the roundabout" - and I end up slamming on and watching the whites of their eyes as they widen on surprise - " how did he get here!" Or maybe I need to rethink my approach to roundabouts? 😂
 
braedach said:
Hello,

Interesting conversations already on this one.

I live in Australia so only place i can legally check this is the Northern Territory and its a wee bit over.




You Brit's have a better chance. I believe 180km is where the ECU cuts you off then 240km in theory. Good luck stopping.

Interesting where 5th drops in in this video!!

Regards
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Watching that video, I thought it was a video of someone driving in Wales. Might need a Tom Jones tune over it though.
 
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i dunno what was in my other Elgrand but i got it to 130 on the a1m near sawtry, started weaving a bit and the mrs was getting mad.
it had coil overs and big work wheels. i wish i had kept it now!
 
i had mine to 115mph and it shook like a shitting dog and so did i it did not like tram lines on the motorway
 
portdavenport said:
RE: The top speed video at the top of the thread (1st post) seems a bit sluggish on acceleration between 140 to 160 kph.

I have a feeling the RWD version is perhaps a little quicker, probably because it's down on weight 480kg at 2010kg instead of 2490 kg.

I've got my Series III RWD on video launching somewhat casually off the line from 0-86 kph in 6-seconds flat at about 3/4 throttle with Power Mode activated. At 86 kph, I had to get on the brakes for a powerful truck launching ahead of me.

I reckon a good, well-kept Elgrand (E51 RWD) with a tune, full throttle leaving it in auto with Power Mode enabled is good for 0-100 kph in just under 6-seconds.

NB. I am running on the factory Autech 17" Alloys with 225R17 rubber and a camber setup. Running too wide on the tires will also increase rolling resistance, so 225 to 215 or under will also help acceleration and fuel economy at the cost of grip.
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My apologies, everyone, I got an email about an update to this thread and I came back to revisit it and I reread what I said.

In the last sentence I have a typo at 'just under 6-seconds to 100-kph'. That's a typo sorry: I meant 7-seconds, because the whole point to the post was you still have to accelerate another 14 kph approx. to get to 100 kph, and I still think we need to allow extra time for an Elgrand 3.5 to reach 100kph or 60 miles per hour... Unless your building a worked motor or boosting somehow, that would defintely speed things up.

Port!
 
In the over 5 years that I have owned my Elgrand I have never driven it much faster than about 80 and on the motorway usually drive at around the 65 to 75 mark max as to my mind this is where it feels happiest.

I do however for a bit of fun occasionally push it a bit more on A roads and whilst it is not in any way fast for such a big vehicle it can be quite a fun drive with a quite decent mid range and I am certain that I have surprised a few tailgaters over the last couple of years. :grinning:
 
You would need circa 350 bhp to get any where near that. 10 seconds is the standard 0-60

The E52 with 280 bhp and a smaller body does it in about 8.8 seconds

To compare if you think the 0-60 is circa 7 seconds you are saying its the same time as a QX50 or a Lexus IS250
 

A 3.5 in power mode driven flat out
 
Mine did 0 to 100kmh in 7 seconds. Just gotta figure out how to clear up the mess at the bottom of the cliff.
 
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Well I don’t know there must be something wrong with my engine so I have tried it again and this is results.

I’m using a Pivot 3a and it is set on Sport 7 but the problem I am having is that the rear wheels keeps spinning on Launch you can hear it on the videos.

I do have a Impul ECU, but I hadn’t noticed before when I floor it it automatically switches into power mode this is shown on the videos.


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The last video was done on the Pivot 3a using eco-5 which gives me 80% full throttle so maximum revs is just under 6000rpm and that got the best time because I didn’t have any wheel spin.

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in the videos if you pause it when your speedo hits 100kmh its about 10 seconds. the chinese gps speedos are never accurate tbh
 
I don't think it's that far out

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Except it's a slab fronted brick wall not a car 😁

If you want a fast car buy one, in the grand scheme of things these buses are not fast.
 
sg66 said:
Except it's a slab fronted brick wall not a car 😁

If you want a fast car buy one, in the grand scheme of things these buses are not fast.
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Well perhaps you got a slow one being a brick won't have any effect on 0 to 60 times
 
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