E51 The E51 Catalytic Converter Problem

[Lisa-Marie]

We have put a poll up on here also
Link below

https://forum.elgrandoc.uk/threads/e51-cat-failure.18449/#post-233103

 

[mamos99]

I have had this problem twice since august. The engine warning light appears in screen and the engine symbol on the dash board lights up. It is followed within 30mins ish by brief intermittent engine stuttering. This first happened abroad in august. A local Nissan dealer in Switzerland cleared the warning and said it was probably electronic. After returning to UK i got my local mechanic to check it but he said as warning had been cleared the diagnostic check didn't reveal anything. I have done 2000 miles since with no problems. On long journey to Scotland over Xmas the problem returned. However i managed to return to Essex without the car showing any further symptoms. Is this the start of Catalytic problems or is it something else? I have been putting various types of petrol in the car from E95 to E99 (depending on availability).

 

[LeStempy]

I have had this problem twice since august. The engine warning light appears in screen and the engine symbol on the dash board lights up. It is followed within 30mins ish by brief intermittent engine stuttering. This first happened abroad in august. A local Nissan dealer in Switzerland cleared the warning and said it was probably electronic. After returning to UK i got my local mechanic to check it but he said as warning had been cleared the diagnostic check didn't reveal anything. I have done 2000 miles since with no problems. On long journey to Scotland over Xmas the problem returned. However i managed to return to Essex without the car showing any further symptoms. Is this the start of Catalytic problems or is it something else? I have been putting various types of petrol in the car from E95 to E99 (depending on availability).

It sounds more likely to be crank or cam sensor issues. Failing cats won't throw up a fault code.

 

[Roger_K]

I'll be looking into this very soon. Interesting though that the dealer I bought it from said it was not necessary when I mentioned it.

 

[Pixelpoker]

I'll be looking into this very soon. Interesting though that the dealer I bought it from said it was not necessary when I mentioned it.

some dealers would sell their first born to make a sale ; )

 

[Roger_K]

some dealers would sell their first born to make a sale ; )

He mentioned something about a recall, but as this thread mentioned, would only delay the inevitable I guess.
Looking at my exhaust, it looks free flowing from what I can see when I rev it.
I'm anxiously waiting for my 10th post - which should be this one - to be able to see the technical forums on how to check and do that.

 

[Pixelpoker]

He mentioned something about a recall, but as this thread mentioned, would only delay the inevitable I guess.
Looking at my exhaust, it looks free flowing from what I can see when I rev it.
I'm anxiously waiting for my 10th post - which should be this one - to be able to see the technical forums on how to check and do that.

it's the most hotly debated topic on this forum - gets people all riled up with differing opinions.

to sum it here's a round up:

http://forum.elgrandoc.uk/threads/f...not-remove-rear-cats-debate.18398/post-234578

don't let it scare you - it's one of those subjects that all car forums have, but it's worth being informed ☺


recall was for the ecu over fuelling and unburnt gas getting into the cats, which could harm them.

Quote from Nissan:

"Catalytic converter damage was found to be happening due to unburned fuel entering the exhaust."

you can check yours here. Your chassis number is located on a metal plate on the passenger side next to the fuse box

http://www.Nissan.co.jp/RECALL/search.html

 

[Roger_K]

recall was for the ecu over fuelling and unburnt gas getting into the cats, which could harm them.

Quote from Nissan:

"Catalytic converter damage was found to be happening due to unburned fuel entering the exhaust."

you can check yours here. Your chassis number is located on a metal plate on the passenger side next to the fuse box

http://www.Nissan.co.jp/RECALL/search.html

Thanks for that link. Looks like my van had 2 recalls, but none implemented
Your car was found as a target vehicle for the following items.

number	Content	Type	Notification date (start date)	Implementation status
1​	Elgrand recalls Siberian (part of vehicles produced from 2004 to 2007)	recall	2019/02/14	Not implemented
Two​	Elgrand's recall (part of cars manufactured from 2002 to 2006)	recall	2013/09/12	Not implemented

 

[Pixelpoker]

Thanks for that link. Looks like my van had 2 recalls, but none implemented
Your car was found as a target vehicle for the following items.

number	Content	Type	Notification date (start date)	Implementation status
1​	Elgrand recalls Siberian (part of vehicles produced from 2004 to 2007)	recall	2019/02/14	Not implemented
Two​	Elgrand's recall (part of cars manufactured from 2002 to 2006)	recall	2013/09/12	Not implemented

if you don't have one yet, its worth paying for a japanese report - lists all sorts of things (original auction sheet, recalls, accident damage etc)

it's about $60AUD

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[Roger_K]

if you don't have one yet, its worth paying for a japanese report - lists all sorts of things (original auction sheet, recalls, accident damage etc)

it's about $60AUD

Japanese Used Cars and Vehicles for Sale at Carvx.Jp - CAR VX

Japanese used cars & vehicles exporter CAR VX provides a large selection of used cars in Japan to buy directly from Japan. Check more large selection of our Japanese cars for sale.

carvx.jp

Just entered my chassis number, and the report came back as wrong grade. I did another report yesterday, and it came back as correct grade, but no info on recalls.

 

[Roger_K]

I'd like to know the details of those 2 recalls. It doesn't really say.

 

[Pixelpoker]

Thanks for that link. Looks like my van had 2 recalls, but none implemented
Your car was found as a target vehicle for the following items.

number	Content	Type	Notification date (start date)	Implementation status
1​	Elgrand recalls Siberian (part of vehicles produced from 2004 to 2007)	recall	2019/02/14	Not implemented
Two​	Elgrand's recall (part of cars manufactured from 2002 to 2006)	recall	2013/09/12	Not implemented

those two are for the ecu unburnt fuel and the overheating fuel gauge (not dangerous, but it will either give false readings or just not work)

 

[Roger_K]

those two are for the ecu unburnt fuel and the overheating fuel gauge (not dangerous, but it will either give false readings or just not work)

So for the unburnt fuel issue, how can i get that sorted now?

 

[Pixelpoker]

I'd like to know the details of those 2 recalls. It doesn't really say.

 

[Roger_K]

SOunds like the fuel meter one is caused by the lighting too bright in the instrument cluster?

 

[Pixelpoker]

So for the unburnt fuel issue, how can i get that sorted now?

Not sure really.

Here in the UK Nissan are not interested, so we have to email Nissan JP and get authorisation from them and then book it in with a main dealer here. Can take a while tho.

A few members have succesfully done that

As your in Aus, I'm not sure how helpful Nissan Aus will be, but worth contacting them with your details (chassis number, problem etc)

I'll see if i can find the Nissan JP email address...

 

[Pixelpoker]

SOunds like the fuel meter one is caused by the lighting too bright in the instrument cluster?

Possibly.

a few members on here have also successfully got the work done in the UK after authorisation form japan.

 

[Pixelpoker]

SOunds like the fuel meter one is caused by the lighting too bright in the instrument cluster?

here you go - Nissan JP email address:

 

[Roger_K]

here you go - Nissan JP email address:

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Awesome... thanks mate... I'll drop them a line. Do I need to get google to translate it to Japanese do you think?

 

[Reverend RobP]

Awesome... thanks mate... I'll drop them a line. Do I need to get google to translate it to Japanese do you think?

Nah just write it in English. They're pretty good