My fairly basic conversion

alboy

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#41
Having previously re-registered a Toyota Granvia as a camper, in the hope that I would be able to get cheaper insurance, only to find that in reality, quite a few company's, including my current insurer, Aviva, did not offer cover, I decided against.
 

Travellingman

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#42
Fabulous job , we want to keep the seating capability but wife insists on a portaloo , planning to fit bed from rear forwards and have loo , and storage behind front seats
 
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Rhiannon

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#43
Hi, looks fab
One quick question, how do you remove the middle seat of the middle row? Can this be bone as a temporary measure to free up spac
 

alboy

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#44
Hi, looks fab
One quick question, how do you remove the middle seat of the middle row? Can this be bone as a temporary measure to free up spac
Hi, Thanks for the compliment, mine is an XL so it only has seven seats.
 

Travellingman

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#45
I removed the middle single seat , not hard , lift up end rail caps unscrew plastic screws and remove , then use 14mm socket one bolt at either end and one cunningly hidden in middle under foam , 6 Bolts total , seat came out with rails , heavy , so enlist help of daughter , if she wont help threaten to turn of sky tv box , filled in space with silver backed foam left over from insulating summerhouse , and then a nice colour coordinated doormat from @ORRISONS , COST 6.99
 

freshandminty

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#46
I removed the middle single seat , not hard , lift up end rail caps unscrew plastic screws and remove , then use 14mm socket one bolt at either end and one cunningly hidden in middle under foam , 6 Bolts total , seat came out with rails , heavy , so enlist help of daughter , if she wont help threaten to turn of sky tv box , filled in space with silver backed foam left over from insulating summerhouse , and then a nice colour coordinated doormat from @ORRISONS , COST 6.99
Just to clarify is this in an E50 or E51?

I need to remove the middle seat of my middle row in my E51.

Thanks
Phil
 

Neil Derrick

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#48
Thank you for all your kind comments.

I have been asked to do a "how to" My conversion took very little skill, good job really, as my skills are very limited. The boxes were just put together using corner connectors & the corners of the boxes were completed with corner profile, these cover up any errors in the cutting, which incidentally was all done with a handsaw. As an aside I use a Japanese pull saw, if you have never used one I would sugest you try, in my opinion they are so much better than a traditional saw. Routing the edges to fit the Vohringer trim was, for me, the hardest part. The size of my boxes were governed by the usable bits from the damaged sheet of ply, if you look closely you can see joins & cutouts, if I had a full sheet of ply I would have made the box on the right slightly wider. The length was worked out by measuring the distance,( with the front seat fully forward & the middle seat flat), between the front of the seat & the front of the kitchen pod, in my case it was 86cm. The top of the boxes were made from a couple of large table tops, these came with the trim & the groove already cut.

This is were my Jewish ancestry comes in, about 5 years ago I was out walking the dog when I noticed some cushions from a caravan, put out for the dustman & thought , these will come in handy one day & then about 3 years ago, same dog, same dustbin, there were some cushions from a speedboat, so now I have the option, which is only available in the most expensive beds, one side soft & squishy, the other side firm.

As mentioned earlier the kitchen pod was made by Evodesigns near Wareham, I was lucky because as it was the first one he had made, he had already constructed it. Having done lots of research, I found this one to be of very good value & would thoroughly recommend him even though his speciality is VW`s, My reason for choosing this design with the curved tambour doors was twofold, so I could get in the cupboad with the bed down & also so I could put the rear seat up & down without removing the pod.

This is probably of no interest, as I doubt any of you have the same taste as me, the material was from Fabric warehouse & took about 5 meters at £10 a meter.

The cost were as follows £

Kitchen pod 380
Damaged sheet of Vohringer ply 40
Vohringer trim 11
Corner profile 18
Corner connectors 6
Vohringer table tops x 2 72
Material x 5 meters 50
Cushion inners x 2 8
Box of screws 3
Foam cushions Free :D
Total 588

I hope this all makes sense & is of use to you, it is always difficult, for me, to explain myself, I know what I am talking about, :confused: but it can be hard to put things accross.
excellent write up
 

Whaley

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#49
@alboy Can I ask do you have a leisure battery and if so where is it located? Is it fully wired in or stand alone? Liking your conversion a lot and thinking of copying a lot of it but need a leisure battery set-up really and trying to work out where to put it!
 

alboy

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@alboy Can I ask do you have a leisure battery and if so where is it located? Is it fully wired in or stand alone? Liking your conversion a lot and thinking of copying a lot of it but need a leisure battery set-up really and trying to work out where to put it!

Having gone to the expense of fitting a leisure battery in my previous vehicle & only needing it a couple of times I decided not to bother with one this time. Most of my camping is on Caravan club sites so I use an electric hook up & for the odd time I go wild camping I use a Ring battery pack/inverter. As far as I know some Elgrands from Hokkaido come with a cold weather pack which includes two batteries so presumably there is room under the bonnet.

Regards Alan.
 

Whaley

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#51
Think there may have been room under my bonnet until I had an LPG conversion and so now that takes up some of the space hence the problem! Thanks
 
#52
This is awesome and thanks for letting me know about evo design, I've been trying to find a place that will sell you a sensibly priced kitchen pod, as I want something small and removable for when I finally buy an elgrand
 

Funkymartyn

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#53
Great thread this one, some good ideas. .. I'm New to this game, so don't even know if I'm allowed to post up pics yet via photo bucket....etc ?
But what we will be trying this weekend is putting the 3in memory foam base on top of the front and middle seats.for the bed, . As the rear right hand seat looking to the back (sliding door side ) is removed.. This is where a free standing kitchen unit is secured using the orig seat fixings, allowing the unit to be pushed to the resrvor towards door, etc.
This as sink, hob, work top... and inside cub as battery, gas bottle, pots, pans, etc..
Let you know if this set up works....and if I can get pics up....mart
 

alboy

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#54
Having just looked through my previous content I noticed that some of my pictures are no longer available (bloody photobucket), so thought in case it might give a few ideas that I would repost some of them. The idea of this bedding arrangement is, for when I am staying for just one night, if I am staying for longer I use the boxes with proper mattresses shown in my original post, I have added a few of the pictures here.
 

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Mikeboy2

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#55
Hi

Great job on the conversion! I was contemplating doing something similar, have you got water and gas in the built unit? and where did you get your cool box?

Cheers Mike
 

alboy

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#56
Hi,

Thanks for the kind comments, I do have water & gas, rather than trying to explain how I did it, I thought I would show a few pictures. The water pump is manual & if you look closely you can just see the water bottle in the second picture, the gas bottles are a R904 & the emergency one is an R901. The cool box was purchased from Conrad Electronics UK Ltd & at the time, about 3 years ago cost £80.98. Hope that helps.

All the best Alan.
 

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Mikeboy2

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#57
Hi Alan

Thanks for the photos, if I enquire about the unit to Evodesigns does it have a name/reference especially for the Elgrand or is it just a standard one for any vehicle?
 

alboy

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#58
As far as I remember it was a stock design, in fact if you look on their website under Flatpack furniture/Kitchen pods/ Curve kitchen pod flat pack, you will see mine. He does, or at least did, specialise in VWs (I will wash my mouth out with soap & water) so I am sure he could come up with a design that would suite you, after all I doubt if you are Saints supporter, hence the red & white. Incidentally I was lucky, because as it was the first he had made to that design he made it up for me. One thing I would personally change with mine would be to put access points on the back to make it easier to change the water & to turn the gas on & off.